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== A short history of [[Roshar#History|Roshar]] == |
== A short history of [[Roshar#History|Roshar]] == |
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− | * In the beginning: |
+ | * '''In the beginning''': |
** Roshar, [[Braize]] and [[Ashyn]] created by Adonalsium. Humans created and put on Ashyn (do I know that for sure? Stormfather calls people sons of Honor like he created humans?). Parhsendi created and put on Roshar. Siah Aimians, and Dysain Aimians? |
** Roshar, [[Braize]] and [[Ashyn]] created by Adonalsium. Humans created and put on Ashyn (do I know that for sure? Stormfather calls people sons of Honor like he created humans?). Parhsendi created and put on Roshar. Siah Aimians, and Dysain Aimians? |
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** Adonalsium shattering. Cultivation and Honor settled in the Roshar system. |
** Adonalsium shattering. Cultivation and Honor settled in the Roshar system. |
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− | * The Expulsion: |
+ | * '''The Expulsion''': |
** Humans ruined Ashyn (possibly by motivation from Odium?) possibly with Dawnshards. Many went to Roshar. Welcomed by Parshendi as refugees, given Shinovar. |
** Humans ruined Ashyn (possibly by motivation from Odium?) possibly with Dawnshards. Many went to Roshar. Welcomed by Parshendi as refugees, given Shinovar. |
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** Odium follows? |
** Odium follows? |
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− | * The Desolations: |
+ | * '''The Desolations''': |
** Possibly in a conflict cultivated by Odium, Humans want more and invade greater Roshar. |
** Possibly in a conflict cultivated by Odium, Humans want more and invade greater Roshar. |
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** Parshendi given Voidform by Odium, Fused created by Odium. Also unmade? |
** Parshendi given Voidform by Odium, Fused created by Odium. Also unmade? |
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** After a few desolations, the spren of Roshar create Knights Radiant |
** After a few desolations, the spren of Roshar create Knights Radiant |
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− | * The Aharietiam (The Last Desolation) |
+ | * '''The Aharietiam''' (The Last Desolation) |
** After many desolations, the Heralds are broken and all agree to not return to Braize. Taln is the only one that died and was sent back automatically. |
** After many desolations, the Heralds are broken and all agree to not return to Braize. Taln is the only one that died and was sent back automatically. |
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** Heralds disband |
** Heralds disband |
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− | * The False Desolation |
+ | * '''The False Desolation''' |
** Parshendi don't have Fused or voidlight. |
** Parshendi don't have Fused or voidlight. |
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** Knights Radiant still fight the Parshendi |
** Knights Radiant still fight the Parshendi |
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** The Knights trap Ba-Ado-Mishram in a perfect gemstone, which also lobotomized the Parshendi. They are now parshmen, similar but less than even Dullform. |
** The Knights trap Ba-Ado-Mishram in a perfect gemstone, which also lobotomized the Parshendi. They are now parshmen, similar but less than even Dullform. |
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− | * The Recreance |
+ | * '''The Recreance''' |
** The fighting with the Parshendi is over, the Knights have no purpose |
** The fighting with the Parshendi is over, the Knights have no purpose |
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** Disagreements start among Orders. |
** Disagreements start among Orders. |
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** The Knights lose the Sibling, perhaps the current Bondsmith breaks their oaths. No other Bondsmith spren is bonded, so the Knights have no Bondsmith. |
** The Knights lose the Sibling, perhaps the current Bondsmith breaks their oaths. No other Bondsmith spren is bonded, so the Knights have no Bondsmith. |
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− | ** The Knights abandon Urithiru |
+ | ** The Knights abandon Urithiru, at least partly because of the failures in the tower, which I think is caused by the loss of the Sibling. |
** They also learn they were the invaders, and voidbringers, bringing Odium to Roshar |
** They also learn they were the invaders, and voidbringers, bringing Odium to Roshar |
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*** They are afraid they will destroy Roshar like they did Ashyn. |
*** They are afraid they will destroy Roshar like they did Ashyn. |
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− | *** Honor, who is dying and not all there, tells them they will, rather than helping them be better like he has in |
+ | *** Honor, who is dying and not all there, tells them they will, rather than helping them be better like he has in the past when they learned the truth. |
*** Plus, they realize they lobotomized an entire species. |
*** Plus, they realize they lobotomized an entire species. |
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** Because of all this, they decide to give up their spren-bonds, even though it will kill the spren (sorta). (I have to assume the spren agree?) Day of Recreance. |
** Because of all this, they decide to give up their spren-bonds, even though it will kill the spren (sorta). (I have to assume the spren agree?) Day of Recreance. |
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− | * 2.5k years |
+ | * '''2.5k years''' |
** Misc events, but peace in comparison to the Desolations. |
** Misc events, but peace in comparison to the Desolations. |
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− | ** The |
+ | *** The Hierocracy |
+ | *** The War of Loss |
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+ | *** The Scouring of Aimia |
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− | * The True Desolation, the Everstorm |
+ | * '''The True Desolation, the Everstorm''' |
== magic == |
== magic == |
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** Ability to change body (in different ways) |
** Ability to change body (in different ways) |
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** the two races are not related |
** the two races are not related |
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− | ** [[Siah |
+ | ** [[Siah Aimian]]s |
*** Blue nails and deep blue eyes |
*** Blue nails and deep blue eyes |
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*** Pale white skin, almost blue. |
*** Pale white skin, almost blue. |
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*** Shadow casts the wrong direction |
*** Shadow casts the wrong direction |
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*** Native to Roshar? |
*** Native to Roshar? |
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+ | ** [[Dysian Aimian]] (Sleepless) |
*** Hive mind, made of cremilng like creatures, called Hordlings |
*** Hive mind, made of cremilng like creatures, called Hordlings |
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*** Can be together, and look and act like a person, or be separate |
*** Can be together, and look and act like a person, or be separate |
Revisión actual del 15:08 3 dic 2020
A short history of Roshar
- In the beginning:
- Roshar, Braize and Ashyn created by Adonalsium. Humans created and put on Ashyn (do I know that for sure? Stormfather calls people sons of Honor like he created humans?). Parhsendi created and put on Roshar. Siah Aimians, and Dysain Aimians?
- Adonalsium shattering. Cultivation and Honor settled in the Roshar system.
- The Expulsion:
- Humans ruined Ashyn (possibly by motivation from Odium?) possibly with Dawnshards. Many went to Roshar. Welcomed by Parshendi as refugees, given Shinovar.
- Odium follows?
- The Desolations:
- Possibly in a conflict cultivated by Odium, Humans want more and invade greater Roshar.
- Parshendi given Voidform by Odium, Fused created by Odium. Also unmade?
- Haralds created by Honor, Oathpact created
- Fused and Heralds sent to Braize when they die, locked there by the oath that Heralds won't let the Fused leave. At the end of a Desolation, the Heralds go back to Braize willingly to keep the Fused there.
- Heralds hide from and/or fight the Fused. Eventual caught and tortured. If even one breaks and agrees to let a single Fused leave, the floodgates are open for all. The Heralds also can go back to Roshar.
- After a few desolations, the spren of Roshar create Knights Radiant
- The Aharietiam (The Last Desolation)
- After many desolations, the Heralds are broken and all agree to not return to Braize. Taln is the only one that died and was sent back automatically.
- Heralds disband
- The False Desolation
- Parshendi don't have Fused or voidlight.
- Knights Radiant still fight the Parshendi
- The unmade Ba-Ado-Mishram brings voidlight and voidform back to Parshendi, through Connection.
- 2k years
- Somewhere in here Honor is killed (takes centuries to die)
- The Knights trap Ba-Ado-Mishram in a perfect gemstone, which also lobotomized the Parshendi. They are now parshmen, similar but less than even Dullform.
- The Recreance
- The fighting with the Parshendi is over, the Knights have no purpose
- Disagreements start among Orders.
- The Knights lose the Sibling, perhaps the current Bondsmith breaks their oaths. No other Bondsmith spren is bonded, so the Knights have no Bondsmith.
- The Knights abandon Urithiru, at least partly because of the failures in the tower, which I think is caused by the loss of the Sibling.
- They also learn they were the invaders, and voidbringers, bringing Odium to Roshar
- They are afraid they will destroy Roshar like they did Ashyn.
- Honor, who is dying and not all there, tells them they will, rather than helping them be better like he has in the past when they learned the truth.
- Plus, they realize they lobotomized an entire species.
- Because of all this, they decide to give up their spren-bonds, even though it will kill the spren (sorta). (I have to assume the spren agree?) Day of Recreance.
- 2.5k years
- Misc events, but peace in comparison to the Desolations.
- The Hierocracy
- The War of Loss
- The Scouring of Aimia
- Misc events, but peace in comparison to the Desolations.
- The True Desolation, the Everstorm
magic
General
- The spren bond that is required for people to be able to do sergebinding makes using Hermalugy on a sergebinder to steal their power a little weird. It would not work quite like it does with stealing some of the other powers. (https://wob.coppermind.net/events/370/#e11827) (This makes me wonder if sdna is even needed for sergebinding. I mean Hoid didn't seem to need it to get a spren to join him. Although Mraize implied dna was important when he said to Shallan "I should have known you were from that family)
Lightweaving
- Time involved? Talks alot about Shallan's Memories (with a capital M). "The less she was in the now, and more she was in the then, the better the sketch would be". Wok, pg 120.
Races
- Aimian
- Non human
- A form of immortality
- Ability to change body (in different ways)
- the two races are not related
- Siah Aimians
- Blue nails and deep blue eyes
- Pale white skin, almost blue.
- Change body aspects
- Shadow casts the wrong direction
- Native to Roshar?
- Dysian Aimian (Sleepless)
- Hive mind, made of cremilng like creatures, called Hordlings
- Can be together, and look and act like a person, or be separate
- I think I read somewhere they are not native to Roshar?
- Iriali
- Metalic golden hair
- Mostly have yellow eyes
- Golden skin, less so. Only see in light.
- Not native to roshar
- Shin
- Round faces
- Large eyes (lacking Epicanthic folds, unlike most of Roshar)
- Where are Shin from, why are they different than the rest?
- Alethi
- Tall and noble
- Black hair
- Tan skin
- Epicanthic fold in the eyes
- Not native to Roshar
- Natan
- Blueish Skin
- Stark, wool-like white hair
- Wide noses
- Aimian/Human heritage
- Babath
- blue veins prominent below the skin
- Aimian/Human heritage
- Unkalaki
- Tall or Large
- Strong teeth that can eat shells
- Pale skin, goes redish when amused (wor 446) although I Rock is described as having tan skin (wok 214)
- Red hair
- Parshendi/Human heritage
- Selay
- Includes Purelakers
- Long limbs
- Leathery skin
- Dark hair
- Makabakam
- Very dark skin and hair, almost black
- No lighteyes
- Nations
- Reshi
- Black hair
- Round features
- Tan skin, dark but not as dark as Makabaki.
- Thaylen
- Long grey eyebrows
- Herdazian
- crystalline, slate-colored fingernails
- Tan skin
- Parshendi/human heritage?
- Liaforan (possibly part of makabakam)
- Dark brown skin
- Dark brown eyes
Religions
- Thaylen Passions
- Nu Ralik of the Purelake
- Vorinism
- Stone Shamanism
- Tashi and Nun Raylisi Of Tashikk
Groups (Secret or otherwise)
Nice article https://www.tor.com/2020/06/18/everything-we-know-about-secret-societies-on-roshar/
Knights Radiant
Skybreakers
- Even though they are an order of Knights Radiant, they get their own group listing because they were the only order that did not disband at the Recreance. They have been secretly continued to operate and recruit.
- Helaran Davar was an acolyte
Oldbloods
- Q: What are Oldbloods? A: Oldbloods are the...years ago Alethkar was ruled by a different group of people. A different, like, dynasty. It's been overturned and it's been a long enough time that they're not really a threat. But to acknowledge they're an Oldblood, they wear the tatoo that means, "We used to rule this place." And so, it's just a lineage of people in a dynasty that used to be the kings of Alethkar. link
Sons of Honor
The Diagram
Ghostbloods
Envisagers
- Believe in the Knights Radiant, and try to trigger their return through putting people's lives in danger
- Teft and his parents were members, but he caused their death.
- There might be others in Yulay? Sigzil speaks of some people there with similar goals?
???
- Shallan's mother was a member
- She tried to kill Shallan, because Shallan was a surgebinder.
- Some people say she was involved with a skybreaker acolyte, so maybe she was trying to follow their goals of stopping the knights? However, it seems excessive for skybreakers to talk about killing an innocent child, that could not possibly be justified by broken laws, etc.
The Ring
The Sleepless
- Dysian Amians.
- We've seen several. http://www.theoryland.com/intvmain.php?i=1182#37
- They are watching the world, hoping for redemption, according to WoK back cover: [1]
- They know about major people, and what they can do (even their Order), according to WoK back cover, and WoR back cover [2]
The Shamanate
- stone shamans of shinovar
- Are the leaders call the Shamanate, or the entire group?
- Keepers of the blades
- In touch with someone, Ishar or someone else, to believe the Desolation has not come again. Unless they had just been told that by Ishar 4500 years ago.
- Stones are sacred... Why? Something to do with the soul of the stones?
- world singers
- ire
- Veristitalian
- fuzed
Heralds
(FYI: All are hidden in the first book: http://theoryland.com/intvmain.php?i=1078#24) (Or not. [3])
Jezrien
- He is somewhere in WoKs, maybe. Brandon hinted so with a note in someone's book that said "Where is Jezrien?"
- There is a drunk in the Prologue that says "Have you seen me?", but he had long black hair and grey beard. Jezrien has a short beard, and he looks thirty.
- Named Ahu. (Oathbringer, Pg827) black, scraggly beard. Skin dark for an alethi.
- Verified. Oathbringer p1239.
Nale
- Shows up at the beginning of both WoK and WoR, as the person with a strange scar on his cheek.
- Shows up in WoR as "Darkness", killing surgebinders.
- Shows up at the end of WoR, names himself, and give Nightblood to Szeth
- Some questions about if he holds his own blade or not. His eyes didn't seem to change, he seems to be surge-binding. It means he would have had to have gone back for it at the beginning of WoK.
- He did. He also holds a shardblade from a spren he bonded. Explained to Szeth in Oathbringer.
Chanarach
- Liss the assassin?
Vedel
Pailiah
Shalash
- Seems to be "getting worse" (said by a herald, probably Kalak, in Prologue of WoR)
- Most likely is Baxil's mistress in WoK
- she is going around smashing works of art based on her. (WoB: Shalash is the Mistress Orem Signing 2014)
- Her statue was missing in Prologue of WoK, and WoB say Baxil's mistress destroyed it
- A painting was ruined in Lift's interlude in WoR
Battar
- Dova in Karbaranth, tells Taravangian the desolation is coming. (Oathbringer p1238)
Kalak
- Most likely Nale's companion in Prologue of WoK and WoR.
Talenel
- Someone claiming to be him shows up at the end of WoK.
- Someone who talks like him may be held captive in WoR (we are led to believe they are the same person)
- He has his own interlude, while he is held captive
Ishar
Unmade
Splinters, Cognitive entities, most likely from odium. Like spren, they are at different levels of awareness, and power. The most powerful are described as demons and have names. There are 9 total. (Oathbringer, pg358)
They could represent Odiums purposes, (which I guess we wont know until we know how many purposes he has. link)
Ahu gave the following examples. "The Black Fisher? The Spawning Mother, the Faceless?" (Oathbringer, p872)
I am personally of the opinion that they were once people, a counter to the Heralds.
Ashertmarn
- Male
- The Heart of the Revel
- Leads people to indulge in excess
- Mindless
Ba-Ado-Mishram
- Female
- Can provide voidlight, and facilitate forms of power to Parshendi
Chemoarish
- Female
- The dustmother
Yelig-nar
Source: (Possible) "Eligos" or "Eligor", a Great Duke of hell, in Ancient Jewish theology. He discovers hidden things and knows the future of wars and how soldiers should meet. He also attracts the favor of lords, knights and other important persons.
- Blightwind
- Consumes souls.
- Can directly attack and kill people
Re-Shephir
Source: "Resheph" was a Canaanite deity of plague and war. Has power over plague, to cause it or prevent it. Related to Nergal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resheph
- Female
- the "Midnight Mother".
- creates the Midnight Essence
Dai-gonarthis
Source: (Possible) "Dagon" was a Syrian, philistine, Mesopotamian god of the harvest, but for a long time was mistakenly believed to be a fish god.
- He is the Black Fisher.
- He harvests and consumes sorrow?
- Could he be many? Referred to as "they"? (Oathbringer p1081)
Nergaoul
Source: "Nergal" was a Mesopotamian war god, the god of plague and pestilence, represents inflicted death. Watched over the underworld. In Christianity, was a spy for Hell. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nergal
- responsible for the Thrill, this effect is regional to his location, primarily in Alethkar and Jah Kaved. (WoR Pg910)
- Same effect on all, regardless of which side
- Mindless
Moelach
Source: "Moloch" was known for providing victory in war, in return for child sacrifices. Moloch has been used figuratively in English literature from John Milton's Paradise Lost (1667) to Allen Ginsberg's "Howl" (1955), to refer to a person or thing demanding or requiring a very costly sacrifice. link
- Responsible for the death-rattles, this effect is regional to Moelach's location.
- at the end of wor, He is drawn to something in the west
- Mindless
Sja-anat
Maybe "Surgat"? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surgat. How about "Anat", a violent war-goddess http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anat.
- Taker of secrets
- seems to corrupt spren and make them act strange. Can make spren spy for her?
- possibly responsible for thunderclast? One showed up when they were dealing with this unmade in a vision of the past in WoR (I don't think so. I think these are just Fuzed that no longer inhabit Parshendi?)
- Creator, Corruptor
God Spren
Stormfather
- I believe he is a spren that absorbed/became Honor's cognitive shadow. [4] This makes him more than a spren.
Nightwatcher
- A spren (maybe) that gives boons and curses.
- Seems to be related to Cultivation. Could it just be cultivation? No, (http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/14404-manchester-signing-august-5-2014/page-2#entry167585)
- Nightwatcher's relationship to Cultivation is weird: Q: Is the Nightwatcher a spren of Cultivation in a similar way that the Stormfather is to Honor? A: The Nightwatcher is not Cultivation but is related. You're on the right track. (http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/7267-words-of-brandon-compiled-x-2/)
- Jasnah says she is a powerful spren, page 65, end of chapter 3, WoR.
Unknown sibling
- Sleeping
- Possibly the "Lifebrother", mentioned by Taravangian, WoK pg 976.