Usuario:Lyht/stormlight

Groups (Secret or otherwise)

Oldbloods

• Q: What are Oldbloods? A: Oldbloods are the...years ago Alethkar was ruled by a different group of people. A different, like, dynasty. It's been overturned and it's been a long enough time that they're not really a threat. But to acknowledge they're an Oldblood, they wear the tatoo that means, "We used to rule this place." And so, it's just a lineage of people in a dynasty that used to be the kings of Alethkar. link

Envisagers

• Teft and his parents were members, but he caused their death.
• There might be others in Yulay? Sigzil speaks of some people there with similar goals?

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• Helaran Devar was a member

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• Shallan's mother was a member
• Did she try to kill Shallan? I can't remember
• Or are they they same as the people who try to trigger Radiant's by committing suicide?

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• The people that try to trigger Radiants?

The Ring

• Chose Lift as Wyndle's bond-partner

Heralds

(FYI: All are hidden in the first book: http://theoryland.com/intvmain.php?i=1078#24)

Jezrien

• He is somewhere in WoKs, maybe. Brandon hinted so with a note in someone's book that said "Where is Jezrien?"
• There is a drunk in the Prologue that says "Have you seen me?", but he had a long black and grey beard. Jezriend has a short beard, and he looks thirty.

Nale

• Shows up at the beginning of both WoK and WoR, as the person with a strange scar on his cheek.
• Shows up in WoR as "Darkness", killing surgebinders.
• Shows up at the end of WoR, names himself, and give Nightblood to Szeth
• Some questions about if he holds his own blade or not. His eyes didn't seem to change, he seems to be surge-binding. It means he would have had to have gone back for it at the beginning of WoK.

Shalash

• Seems to be "getting worse" (said by a herald, probably Kalak, in Prologue of WoR)
• Most likely is Baxil's mistress in WoK
• If Baxil's mistress, she is going around smashing works of art based on her.
  • Her statue was missing in Prologue of WoK, and WoB say Baxil's mistress destroyed it
  • A painting was ruined in Lift's interlude in WoR

Kalak

• Most likely Nale's companion in Prologue of WoK and WoR.

Talenel

• Someone claiming to be him shows up at the end of WoK.
• Someone who talks like him may be held captive in WoR (we are led to believe they are the same person)
• He has his own interlude, while he is held captive

Ishar

• Some people think he is the drunk described in the Prologue of WoK. Could be, but no strong evidence. He speaks in gibberish.

Unmade

Splinters, Cognitive entities, most likely from odium. Like spren, they are at different levels of awareness, and power. The most powerful are described as demons and have names. It is possible the unmade are the 10 fools, or the opposite of the Heralds.

Someone said that Taravangian claimed the effects of the unmade started around the same time that Galivar started exploring the shattered plain. Check for that.

Yelignar

Source: (Possible) "Eligos" or "Eligor", a Great Duke of hell, in Ancient Jewish theology. He discovers hidden things and knows the future of wars and how soldiers should meet. He also attracts the favor of lords, knights and other important persons.

• Blightwind
• Consumes souls.

ReShephir

Source: "Resheph" was a Canaanite deity of plague and war. Has power over plague, to cause it or prevent it. Related to Nergal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resheph

• the "Midnight Mother".
• creates the Midnight Essence?

Dai-gonarthis

Source: (Possible) "Dagon" was a Syrian, philistine, Mesopotamian god of the harvest, but for a long time was mistakenly believed to be a fish god.

• He is the Black Fisher.
• He harvests and consumes sorrow?

Nergaoul

Source: "Nergal" was a Mesopotamian war god, the god of plague and pestilence, represents inflicted death. Watched over the underworld. In Christianity, was a spy for Hell. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nergal

• responsible for the Thrill, this effect is regional to his location, primarily in Alethkar and Jah Kaved. (WoR Pg910)

Moelach

Source: "Moloch" was known for providing victory in war, in return for child sacrifices. Moloch has been used figuratively in English literature from John Milton's Paradise Lost (1667) to Allen Ginsberg's "Howl" (1955), to refer to a person or thing demanding or requiring a very costly sacrifice. link

• Responsible for the death-rattles, this effect is regional to Moelach's location.
• at the end of wor, He is drawn to something in the west

Sja-anat

Sja-anat was one of the mysteries in the previous thread. To figure out who Sja-anat was connected to, I looked at the connections. Sja-anat corrupts spren. Which being, viewed in Christianity as a demon, is known for corrupting things? The Devil, also known as Satan. maybe "Surgat"? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surgat. How about Anat, a violent war-goddess http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anat.

• seems to corrupt spren and make them act strange. Can make spren spy for him?
• possibly responsible for thunderclast? One showed up when they were dealing with this guy in a vision of the past in WoR

Super Spren? High Spren? God Spren?

Nightwatcher

• A spren (maybe) that gives boons and curses.
• Seems to be related to Cultivation. Could it just be cultivation? No, (http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/14404-manchester-signing-august-5-2014/page-2#entry167585)
• Nightwatcher's relationship to Cultivation is weird: Q: Is the Nightwatcher a spren of Cultivation in a similar way that the Stormfather is to Honor? A: The Nightwatcher is not Cultivation but is related. You're on the right track. (http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/7267-words-of-brandon-compiled-x-2/)