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Prior to coalition's expedition to Lasting Integrity, Hoid met with Pattern,{{book ref|sa4|21}} who had grown concerned with Shallan's worsening mental health.{{book ref|sa4|78}} Hoid told Pattern that he was funny, but did offer to help. He told Pattern that if he became worried, Pattern could use the box containing the seon to speak to Hoid via his own box and helped Pattern obtain a copy of the key to Shallan's trunk. He also helped Pattern remove Shallan's brothers from Urithiru to get them away from the threat of Mraize.{{book ref|sa4|115}} Hoid then accompanied Jasnah to the Oathgate platform to see off the expedition.{{book ref|sa4|21}} Sometime before the main campaign began in Emul, Hoid left Jasnah on an unknown errand, promising to meet her later in Azir.{{book ref|sa4|27}} During this time period he spoke to Pattern via the seons on at least x occasions, providing the spren with advice, and incidentally leaking information to the Ghostbloods via the [[Sleepless]] spy that had replaced on of his pens. At some point Hoid began planning with Jasnah to replace the insuboordinate Highprince Ruthar, speaking to his son Relis about the abuse Ruthar's children experienced at the hands of their father.
 
==== Campaign in Emul ====
Weeks later Hoid accompanied Jasnah to a planning meeting, joining her in examining battle maps.{{book ref|sa4|50}} He was by Jasnah's side when Dalinar spoke to her about his desire to further explore his powers as a Bondsmith to successfully end the war with Odium and regain Alethkar. When Jasnah wondered if they might be used to push Odium to agree to terms of a duel, Hoid replied that Odium would never agree to terms unless he truly feared that he might lose the war in order to limit his losses. When Dalinar expressed his wish for total victory, Hoid mocked this hope. Dalinar expressed that he thought his powers might be used to trap the Fused or refound the Oathpact and he felt they were leaving options unexplored, Hoid agreed with him, claiming that his value was greater as a Bondsmith than a general. After Jasnah agreed to consider Dalinar's plan, Hoid mocked Dalinar again for his positive view of the monarchy and warned him to watch the highprinces, as Jasnah was about to move against Ruthar.
 
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