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The section [[Odium#Battle_with_Honor|Battle with Honor]] states that Odium arrived on Roshar after the humans did. But my read of the [[Eila_Stele]] is that Odium arrived with the humans from their previous world (which would imply that they had previously cohabited that world). I'd be curious if anyone knows of sources that add argument either way.
:That line specifically refers to, and uses the phrasing of, this Word of Brandon: [https://wob.coppermind.net/events/262-oathbringer-glasgow-signing/#e8808] I think that sentence, as written, is reasonably accurate. -- [[User:Chaos2651|Chaos2651]] ([[User talk:Chaos2651|talk]]) 16:40, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
 
== Ambition ==
 
It appears that there is disagreement over the role Odium played in Ambitions destruction. The quote in question "Odium clashed with (and mortally wounded) the shard Ambition here. Ambition would later be splintered, though that act took place in a different location." The quote here does not seem to imply Odium actually killed Ambition, he did mortally wound it (although in terms of Shards that phrase seems a bit odd, consider for example Leras) but that does not mean he killed them. Someone else could have finished off the Shard Ambition before they succumbed to their wounds. This is a line of thinking I personally have seen theorised before the release of RoW and with that release it seems more likely Odium is not the one who actually killed Ambition, in universe this also appears to be the case as on the Roshar essay Khriss doesn't list Ambition as one of Odium's "doubtless" victims, it seems that there is doubt over who actually had killed Ambition. I think it would be best to if not remove the mention of Ambition from the list of his victims to at least add a bit acknowledging this doubt on if Odium actually killed Ambition. --[[User:Debarra|Debarra]] ([[User talk:Debarra|talk]]) 26th Dec 2020
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