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::::Let's table further mobile optimizations for now... it really depends on how we do our full mobile skin so I don't really have a lot of brainspace to think of all the permutations. I strongly think the ketek should be removed; we have discussed this among the Keepers and there is consensus on not having the ketek there. The table is too busy right now. Additionally, I think the years aside from the series chronology part should also be removed. -- [[User:Chaos2651|Chaos2651]] ([[User talk:Chaos2651|talk]]) 23:00, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
::::I think word count would be useful information, but then aside from that I think we're at a good balance of information density. The thing with scrollbars is just that it really can be not obvious to viewers when there is a horizontal scrollbar, and I think if we can avoid it, that will be best. There will probably need to be scrollbars when we do have a mobile-centric responsive design, though, I do concede. I removed the ketek and I do strongly prefer this. Word count would be useful information so I'm in favor of that. -- [[User:Chaos2651|Chaos2651]] ([[User talk:Chaos2651|talk]]) 23:11, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
::::I keep adding more thoughts, my apologies. I can see why you put the keteks there when the actual [[ketek]] page is so poor. I think a table displaying each book's ketek would be warranted there, or at least some place of making it clear. Regarding word count I definitely think it's worth putting on all series tables, linking to the respective statistical analysis pages. -- [[User:Chaos2651|Chaos2651]] ([[User talk:Chaos2651|talk]]) 23:23, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
::I'd also just want to state that novellas being grouped in or not is a thing where reasonable minds may absolutely differ, so do just be aware that that is a lot of personal preference. I do mostly prefer it separated now. (But I'd remove the ketek). -- [[User:Chaos2651|Chaos2651]] ([[User talk:Chaos2651|talk]]) 17:33, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
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