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:Though I do see your point, the obvious counterpoint is that some individuals might really want see a chronological list of Stormlight things, which would be appropriate on the series page. -- [[User:Chaos2651|Chaos2651]] ([[User talk:Chaos2651|talk]]) 07:04, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
::Since the novellas are clearly not the same as the Stormlight Archive and should be separated, I think I was able to find a solution to your concern and hope it will be satisfactory as a more elegant way of displaying the data. Although I'm not sure how comfortable I am with the ".5" notation, I left it in absence of being able to think of something better. [[User:SimonEwok|SimonEwok]] ([[User talk:SimonEwok|talk]]) 18:17, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
:I would echo Chaos' concerns, but would also like raise a few other points. First, for background, the table originally only had the "standard" columns for series, of "Year," "Book," "Order," "Length," "Notes," and "Refs," with a separate list at the top of the page of which book would have which flashbacks (see [[Special:PermanentLink/118182]]). After the concerns raised in the [[#Structure of the Stormlight Series|previous section of this page]], I consolidated all that information into the table we have now and added the Radiant Order column as well. Second, the table is already very tightly packed, and so while I see the appeal to giving readers more information, Stormlight novels have a lot that's unique because of their structure, I worry that throwing in "Prologue Viewpoint Character," "Interlude Viewpoint Character" (except it'd probably have to be even wordier, to clarify that we mean "the interlude viewpoint character who has viewpoints in every set of interludes"), "Ketek," or "In-world Text" could be information overload. Without doing a detailed survey of Arcanum, my general impression if that when Brandon talks about the structure of Stormlight novels, the biggest thing he mentions is how each one focuses on one character/order, and I think it makes sense for the table to reflect that. Though honestly, "Radiant Order" would probably get redundant at some point as people associate orders with characters; I mostly added it to clarify some of the situation about Ash and it might be good to remove down the road to make the table feel less cramped and/or maybe open things up to add the standard "notes" column back in. To me, the much better solution would be to discuss the things you want to mention in the article, but leave them out of the table.
:--[[User:Stargazer|Stargazer]] ([[User talk:Stargazer|talk]]) 14:32, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
::I think Radiant Order is most definitely a good addition to the table and one that should stay permanent. Especially because with the leatherbound editions, we've seen that Dragonsteel will be altering the spine and cover symbols and cover page color of each book depending on which Radiant Order the book is assigned to. But yes, there is also a WoB where - paraphrasing - he said that each book would explore a Radiant Order. As for the table feeling cramped, I've spent a lot of time getting the formatting to work well and displaying cleanly on both small screens and 4k monitors. The only one that isn't as ideal is mobile formatting, but I think the tradeoff is definitely worth it, in order to present and compare and contrast more information. [[User:SimonEwok|SimonEwok]] ([[User talk:SimonEwok|talk]]) 18:17, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
While we're discussing this, I'd like to say the I'm entirely comfortable listing ''Horneater'' on the table yet. Granted, I'm much more conservative about listing books on the series table than other people are (I didn't even list ''Wandersail'' when I made the changes in early April), but I feel like it's not entirely clear what novellas Brandon will actually have time to write, as he's mentioned a lot of possible novellas, and my general feeling is that it would be appropriate for us to do some expectation management by not including it on the table. We say "Brandon has said he also hopes to write novellas in between at least all the remaining arc one novels, though is unsure if he has enough time" right before the table, and that's enough for now, in my mind. All that said, I'm curious to here what others think on the matter.
<br/>--[[User:Stargazer|Stargazer]] ([[User talk:Stargazer|talk]]) 14:32, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
:I would say - it's not our role to provide expectation management for Sanderson. We should just organize the information as is. Sanderson's been pretty upfront and clear about his wish to write novellas for Rock and Lopen, and so they belong in the table. Now if that means we need to include footnotes to express that titles are only working titles or that in the case of the Lopen novella, Brandon has said he's not sure if he'll get to it, then I think that's fine, but leaving it off of the table completely is the worse option. [[User:SimonEwok|SimonEwok]] ([[User talk:SimonEwok|talk]]) 18:17, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
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