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Shallan contacted Hoid via seon after she successfully reintegrated Veil and wished to leave the Ghostbloods.{{book ref|sa4|115}} He explained to her some information about seons and told her that he had helped her brother evacuate before the Tower fell. Hoid also told her something of Thaidakar and asked Shallan to pass a message along to Thaidakar via Mraize. Hoid told Thaidakar that he should deal with his own planet and stop meddling with others if he did not want Wit to come beat him again.
 
==== Meeting with Odium ====
Shortly after he returned to Urithiru, Hoid ventured out to the old palace at the Pinnacle, hoping to speak to Odium directly for the first time in over a thousand years.{{book ref|sa4|epilogue}} As he walked the halls, Hoid spoke to Design and some corrupted windspren about the dirty tricks involved in storytelling, drawing an audience's attention to one subject and using their distraction to surprise them elsewhere. Hoid and Design bickered about this topic while Hoid performed coin tricks, with Hoid insisting that illusions performed with trickery were superior to those performed with magic as they draw the audiences attention better. When Design told him that she thought that was stupid, he told her to go bother someone else for a time and she left him to chase the corrupted windspren. Hoid's Breaths alerted him to a presence in Elhokar's old sitting room, and Hoid entered, allowing himself to be easily found. Odium arrived and the two argued about the contract, with Odium insisting he would have his vengeance upon Hoid while Hoid mocked him. Odium then asked Hoid who Hoid would chose for champion, a question that seemed odd to Hoid and he did not answer. As Hoid left the room, he realized the interaction had gone exactly as he had expected except for Odium's question about the champion. He realized that Rayse had been replaced as Vessel, but before he could act he was seized by Odium's power. Odium spoke to him them, admitting he had made a mistake in asking the question and realizing that while he could not harm Hoid directly, he could interfere with the Breaths that Hoid stored his memories in and excise the previous events. Hoid found himself standing in the hallway of the palace, with no idea of the events that had just occurred. He walked down the hall as he had before, beginning his monologue about storytelling again. He felt somewhat disoriented and noticed some oddities, such as Design's absence and one of his trick coins being in the wrong place on his person. Hoid then felt Odium's presence again and returned to the sitting room, having a nearly identical conversation with Odium, without the question about the duel of champions. After Odium declared that he would destroy Dalinar's champion, Hoid left the room feeling uneasy, but he assured himself that all must be well as the conversation had gone exactly as he had expected it to occur.
 
=== Post-Catacendric Scadrial ===