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Hoid traveled to Nalthis at some point following the Catecendre and became a well-known master storyteller in the [[Court of the Gods]].{{book ref|wb|32}} [[Lightsong]] summoned him to tell himself and [[Siri]] the history of the division between [[Idris]] and [[Hallandren]], answering their questions about the [[Manywar]], [[Peacegiver]], and the Hallendran [[God king]]s.{{book ref|wb|32}} Hoid makes use of a unique storytelling method here involving dropping dust and powders{etc} intothat he carried in his pockets while telling a braizer{{cite}}story.
 
It is possible that this is the time period in which Hoid gained hundreds of Breaths to achieve at least the Second Heightening and perfect pitch.{{cite}} Hoid also learned to play a game of Awakened cards, winninga game he began to win repeatedly after he started fixing the games.{{book ref|sa4|99}} However, he eventually lost after betting all on his own victory before he was forced into a tie. This event would serve as a lesson to Hoid later in life to focus on limiting his losses rather than aiming for total victory.{{cite}} At some point he also met Vasher who knew him as Dust,{{book ref|sa2|81}}{{book ref|sa4|15}} as well as Vivenna,{{book ref|sa3|97}} although it is unknown if they met on Nalthis.
 
=== True Desolation (Roshar) ===
It is possible that this is the time period in which Hoid gained hundreds of Breaths to achieve at least the Second Heightening and perfect pitch. Hoid also learned to play a game of Awakened cards, winning repeatedly after fixing the games. However, he eventually lost after betting all on his own victory before he was forced into a tie. This event would serve as a lesson to Hoid later in life.{{cite}} At some point he also met Vasher who knew him as Dust, as well as Vivenna, although it is unknown if they met on Nalthis.
 
=== Roshar (The Stormlight Archive) ===
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| I've come to your land to chase an old acquaintance, but I end up spending most of my time hiding from him instead.
 
Around mid-1170 when Hoid mentioned to Helaran that he was traveling westward, Helaran asked him to deliver a message to Lin Davar. Helaran wished Lin to know that he had eyes near to Lin that were watching him.
 
[[File:Under_the_Jella_Trees_by_Marie_Seeberger.jpg|thumb|left|250px|[[Shallan]] and Hoid's meeting at the fair by [[Coppermind:Artists/Marie_Seeberger|Marie Seeberger]]]]
 
Hoid came to the Middlefest fair in rural Jah Keved and met with Lin Davar in his box.{{book ref|sa2|45}} As they began to speak, Hoid was shocked to catch sight of Shallan Davar, as he was likely able to detect her nascent spren bond. Hoid slipped metal shavings into his own drink before talking to Lin Davar, making use of emotionally Allomancy to manipulate the man. When Shallan entered her carriage to speak with Wikim, Hoid climbed a nearby jella tree and waited for her to exit. When she came out, he revealed himself to her, expressing surprise that he had found her. Shallan asked for news of Helaran, and Hoid told her that he was busy doing things he found important and shared the contents of Helaran's message with her. Hoid asked her if spren spoke to her, but Shallan denied it, refusing to think of the memories she had chosen to forget. Hoid then told her a parable of two blind men, asking her if beauty can ever be taken from a man completely. Shallan replied that she did not believe so, and Hoid asked her to imagine the most beautiful thing she could in exchange for knowledge of Helaran's whereabouts. As Shallan explained her dream of a happy family, she almost began to Lightweave an illusion with Stormlight from Hoid's spheres, but stopped before she could. Hoid realized that she was not yet ready and encouraged her in her struggle to keep her family together. Before Hoid left, he told her Heleran was currently in Alethkar and that he would bring word of Shallan to him if he got the chance.
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