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Back at the ship, Lopen and Huio discussed the Third Ideal. Lopen congratulated his cousin on beating him to the ideal, although struggled to do so as he had an inkling that Huio's oath had been related to him and thought Huio might harbor ill will for him. Lopen took their discussion to heart and vowed to protect others, even if that meant protecting them from himself. The [[Stormfather]] heard this and accepted Lopen's Third Ideal.{{book ref|sa3.5|18}}{{book ref|sa3.5|epilogue}}
===Emuli Campaign===
After one of the battles during the Emuli Campaign, [[Dalinar]] and [[Renarin]] are sitting at one of the [[Bridge Four]] nightly cook fires. As they both stand to leave, Lopen calls out to Renarin and asks him to "look into the future", and find out if he'll beat Huio at cards later.{{book ref|sa4|54}}
== Relationships ==
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