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== Images ==
 
== Images ==
 
What is your policy on images, for example regarding a test full illustration I found [http://17thshard.deviantart.com/ here]. --[[User:Mbg|Mbg]] ([[User talk:Mbg|talk]]) 06:33, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
 
What is your policy on images, for example regarding a test full illustration I found [http://17thshard.deviantart.com/ here]. --[[User:Mbg|Mbg]] ([[User talk:Mbg|talk]]) 06:33, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
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Regarding the [http://coppermind.net/w/index.php?title=Template%3ABooks&diff=13327&oldid=13324 revert]. As I explained in the edit summary the navbar title is misleading and do not represent the content of the navbar. (It say's "Published works" and include unpublished titles, as well as unconfirmed working names like 'The Highprince of War'). Thus one or the other should be fixed. So why did you use Revert? --[[User:Mbg|Mbg]] ([[User talk:Mbg|talk]]) 14:58, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Revisión del 14:58 12 nov 2012

Fixed Special Pages

It should be working for you now. -- Chaos2651 (talk) 03:42, 8 June 2012 (EDT)

Awesome, thanks, what was up with it? --Joe ST (talk) 03:59, 8 June 2012 (EDT)
Not sure, a PHP variable needed to have more memory basically. Not sure why it worked on the older, crappier host there though. -- Chaos2651 (talk) 04:42, 8 June 2012 (EDT)

Site Being Faster?

Today the wiki and the site is running extremely fast (especially compared to the crap service we've had earlier). Do you agree? -- Chaos2651 (talk) 16:27, 3 June 2012 (EDT)

Its faster now yes, much more usable :D --16:38, 3 June 2012 (EDT)
Weird because actually our resources are being more restricted than before kinda... very odd. -- Chaos2651 (talk) 21:06, 3 June 2012 (EDT)
The speed is intermittent, and I'm still getting some errors, but yeah, its awesome :D --Joe ST (talk) 04:29, 4 June 2012 (EDT)

Administratorship

Thank you for the stellar work you have done on the wiki. I would like to apologise for my own extended absence and to grant you powers as an administrator. Hopefully I will be able to find time in the near future to return to the wiki and assist you. I have sent a message to Chaos2651 requesting ConfirmEdit and ParserFunctions plugins so hopefully the spam issue will soon be resolved. Thank you again for your dedication.--Beligaronia (talk) 22:40, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you so much :) and indeed I've missed you :D I'll try my best to be all adminy and stuff, but I also may have some downtime soon, with finals coming up and stuff. Thank you :D 22:43, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Oh, and another good one might be (the official) DPL plugin (or one of the forks if you wish for more functionality) It'd be much better than the lists of characters I've recently been adding to [[{page}/Characters]] and then transcluded where needed, and I'm sure I could find other places for it to be used :D. Fbstj 22:59, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

CharacterInfobox

Do we want to use the switches instead of the subtemplates? It would seem easier to implement if it isn't server intensive or something like that. Your thoughts?--Beligaronia (talk) 23:57, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

I guess a #switch: for the world though the race|homeland|etc → world translation could be its own template, much like the homeland|race → race one ({{Race}}) might be better. I was actually gonna wait until more consensus/organization happens before doing much more on those, hehehe. I hear ParserFunctions is probably more server intensive than multiple-deep transclude, though I dont know for sure. Joe ST 00:06, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Stub template

What do you think about the stub template going at the bottom of an article, rather than in the middle. Wikipedia puts it at the bottom and it would cause less disruption to what little information these pages have. Another option would be to put it at the very top, above the text if you're worried it will go unnoticed.--Beligaronia (talk) 22:49, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

I put it under the first bit so that people could easily tell it was a stub, but still be able to read the first bit. At the very top I guess would work, the bottom not so much since it'd be hidden though wp does do that yeah..... Joe ST 09:23, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
Though, I guess if the template is at the bottom and you cannot see it straight away, it's obviously not needed XD Joe ST 12:12, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Advertising

I assume adding advertising for products isn't wanted on the wiki. I don't know how and don't hink I have the authority to remove this: Effective_Attributes_Of_The_Amazon_Kindle - Jay

Thanks Jay, we do get the occasional spammer. Joe ST

Template:Character

That fixed with the hick up (I am not familiar with the {{#!: function, maybe it is what allows you to avoid the wiki syntax table inside a table problem or it was fixed in on of the mediawiki updates since last time I looked. Btw, why don't you use the standard 'Template:Infobox' form Wikipedia? --Mbg (talk) 18:34, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

The {{#!: function returns everything (including pipes) between its : and }}. Basically because I dont really like the idea of {{!}}. We dont use WP:T:Infobox because I've been incrementally refactoring our version for a while, and I (as the templates maintainer) prefer my own syntax to WP's. --Joe ST (talk) 19:58, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Uploading files error

Trying to upload images I get this error:

Warning: fopen() [function.fopen]: SAFE MODE Restriction in effect. The script whose uid/gid is 188375/188375 is not allowed to access /f5/coppermind/public/w/images/lockdir owned by uid/gid 25000/25000 in /f5/coppermind/public/w/includes/filerepo/backend/lockmanager/FSLockManager.php on line 89
Warning: fopen(/f5/coppermind/public/w/images/lockdir/aivtybylsy5ijedti472r9rll3kspvt.lock) [function.fopen]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /f5/coppermind/public/w/includes/filerepo/backend/lockmanager/FSLockManager.php on line 89
Warning: fopen() [function.fopen]: SAFE MODE Restriction in effect. The script whose uid/gid is 188375/188375 is not allowed to access /f5/coppermind/public/w/images/lockdir owned by uid/gid 25000/25000 in /f5/coppermind/public/w/includes/filerepo/backend/lockmanager/FSLockManager.php on line 89
Warning: fopen(/f5/coppermind/public/w/images/lockdir/llkc2h5nbnsvkfp7cyf7p5k9p2m1zhk.lock) [function.fopen]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /f5/coppermind/public/w/includes/filerepo/backend/lockmanager/FSLockManager.php on line 89

Do you know what is the issue?

See Plantilla:17s. I'm still trying to fix the uploading --Joe ST (talk) 06:34, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the info. Is there away to upload the images manually? if so I just finished a batch of Roshar maps and can send them to you. --Mbg (talk) 07:16, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
Currently nobody can upload images. I'm working on it though, and it should hopefully be fixed over the weekend. *grumbles* php *grumbles* mediawiki *grumbles* :D --Joe ST (talk) 07:17, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
Sounds great, I am looking forward to it! I was afraid it was a traffic problem gone bad, we had a similar problem with our cache servers on another wiki. --Mbg (talk) 07:28, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
Following up on that, it is fixed, thanks. --Mbg (talk) 01:30, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Templates

Template Syntax

I know I dont need to put the namespace in template calls, however both form works and IMO the later improve readability. Similarly I find templates names like {{B}} counter productive, when they are used in regular pages, which supposed to be edited by regular contributor, who don't necessary know what a template is. Templates suppose to make life easier for people to add content. --Mbg (talk) 07:06, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Indeed, using {{b}} manually is discouraged/depreciated, that's why its not documented (other than to show all the possible conversions). Adding Template: before every template call does not improve readability, it just makes articles longer and less maintainable. --Joe ST (talk) 07:12, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Template:Move

Reagrding your revert, Please take care with reverts, if you think that the line brake was necessary there put it back, my intention was to fix the issue that caused the move template to include itself in the articles that need need attention category, which you reverted. (personally, I think that using the <hr> tag there will look better, but its your call) --Mbg (talk) 07:12, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

It was intentionally included in that category, as it relates to all of those pages. --Joe ST (talk) 07:14, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
Maybe we should change that, ideally the category should include only articles that need attention(similar to how the rest of the notice templates work) and if necessary the role of the template can be documented in the category page. --Mbg (talk) 07:24, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
Go ahead, that sounds like a good compromise. --Joe ST (talk) 07:26, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Template place

Can you remove the white space from the image row on the Template:place or add an optional parameter todo so. So that I can fit the map images better. (for example Jah Keved) --Mbg (talk) 03:10, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

there you go, {{{map-width}}} --Joe ST (talk) 09:52, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
Thanks.--Mbg (talk) 00:44, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Request for reflist

I think that we might use a reflist template, for article with large reference list for example(and growing), to avoid unnessary spam. Unless we already have a template that encapsulate the reference tag and allow columns. --Mbg (talk) 01:30, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Or just {{columns|<references />}} with {{{cols}}} for the number of columns
Not as pretty but it works, thanks. --Mbg (talk) 06:33, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Syntax

I notice you keep changing the syntax to ;xx : is it because you like the end result better, don't like bullet points or because its a easier to write than '''xx''',? --Mbg (talk) 00:43, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

all of the above, and more. It gives the same result but is easier to edit. --Joe ST (talk) 11:28, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
I agree it is easier to edit, but is it easier to read? I find the harder way to be more fluent and to take less space, compared with the easier one. I don't mind to put the extra work, so unless you object I would prefer to use the second syntax where it fits. --Mbg (talk) 11:44, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
That section needs reformatting anyway, I doubt it will look like that when it's done, but whatever, I like ;: --Joe ST (talk) 11:57, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Images

What is your policy on images, for example regarding a test full illustration I found here. --Mbg (talk) 06:33, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Revert

Regarding the revert. As I explained in the edit summary the navbar title is misleading and do not represent the content of the navbar. (It say's "Published works" and include unpublished titles, as well as unconfirmed working names like 'The Highprince of War'). Thus one or the other should be fixed. So why did you use Revert? --Mbg (talk) 14:58, 12 November 2012 (UTC)