Usuario:Darniil/mistborn summary extras
Intentions for this Article
As regards the repeated links, I'm kind of treating each chapter as a mini-article unto itself. I figure that if a character, place, term, or other thing shows up only a few times, and I only link the very first time it appears in the overall article, it may be hard for a reader to find the link.
However, treating each chapter as a mini-article, I can link a character, place, etc. the first time it appears in a chapter, thus making it easier for the reader to find a link to a more exhaustive explanation.--Darniil 02:31, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
Chapter 6 - Geography Oddities
I was going to put these on the summary page, but then I decided that they didn't belong there.
Caverns described in prologue as being “to the east”, many days’ travel by foot from Tresting’s estate. During planning in this chapter, Pits of Hathsin are described as being a couple of days away from Luthadel. Luthadel’s Garrison is the only force close enough to come to the aid of the Pits. The caverns are also mentioned as being closer to Luthadel than the Pits. In HoA, TenSoon says the kandra Homeland connects to the Pits, that the kandra had to wall off some tunnels to keep skaa slaves from stumbling into the Homeland. Elsewhere, (where? can't remember), it is mentioned that the Pits, the Homeland, and the caverns are all part of the same system of caves. Very, very large system of caves? If so, some must also exist under Luthadel itself; if the Arguois caverns are large enough to house ten thousand people, they probably aren’t at the periphery of the cave system. (The cramped confines of the Pits suggest they could be at the periphery, putting the Homeland between the Pits and the Arguois caverns, which is in turn between the Homeland and Luthadel.) Yeden, however, mentions that the Arguois caverns are a week’s travel outside the city.
Thoughts?--Darniil 03:12, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
I will attempt an illustration:
Pits
Tresting's Caverns
Homeland
Luthadel
Given that the Pits are (on the map) northwest of Luthadel, Tresting's must be north of Luthadel, and the Caverns remain east of Tresting's. The entire system could be a line (a fault) rather than radiate from a point, running from Luthadel to the Caverns and perhaps onto Fadrex. The Pits are still on the periphery as they are on the outer edge of the line. The Caverns can still be closer to Luthadel than the Pits.
Also remember that the cavern under Luthadel is a construction of TLR when he moved the Well and that the Pits are created by Preservation, so none of the entire business, between the manipulating of a God and a Sliver, is entirely natural.
I hope that works.
Jay 6 November 2011
Chapter 9 - Other Notes
I thought about linking to each of the Great Houses, but I decided that would probably end up in a lot of redlinks, as we hardly know anything about most of them. If that ends up changing, we can link to articles about the houses themselves.--Darniil 03:23, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
- I agree, they aren't necessary at this time. Well, maybe Venture and Tekiel, but for the most part I agree with you. -- Chaos2651 00:52, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
Chapter 10 - Other Notes and Geography Comment
A Skaa Rebellion solder is given special notation in the kitchen where Kelsier gives his speech. I can't remember where Demoux is first named, so I thought I'd leave a note in the summary in case this was his first appearance.
Also, combining the Chapter 6 Oddities (above) with the comment that Kelsier looked north to the Pits of Hathsin, I can only conclude that Tresting's estate is also north of Luthadel. However, based upon travel times, Kelsier should not have been looking north; rather, he probably should have been looking northeast.--Darniil 04:52, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
Chapter 12 - Deepness Thoughts
During Alendi's time, and during the Final Empire, the Mists are considered to be the Deepness. In many ways, they were, as Ruin caused the Mists to be more detrimental to the planet's flora. In this chapter, however, we see a stained-glass window in Keep Venture where the Lord Ruler is fighting something dark. The statue in a previous chapter also suggests something dark. It makes me think that the Lord Ruler was trying to subtly suggest that the real enemy, the real Deepness, is Ruin, not the Mists of Preservation.--Darniil 22:44, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
- Interesting thought. I can definitely see that that could be the case. He wanted to portray a great evil to strengthen his regime, but this is a good side effect. Unfortunately, the clue was lost by all the characters. -- Chaos2651 00:52, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
Chapter 14 - Inquisitor Sight
Vin managed to trick the Inquisitor by tossing away a book with shrapnel in it. Later in the series, however, we see from Marsh that Inquisitors can see the iron in blood. Vin's successful deception gives us some insight into how Inquisitors see.
We know from the third book that Marsh is special among the other Steel Inquisitors. We don't know why, but we know he is. For Marsh, the ever-present blue lines appear to be a standard way of perceiving the world. However, since Vin successfully got the Inquisitor off her trail (albeit momentarily), we can say that the Inquisitor was following the blue lines pointing to the shrapnel rather than the iron in her blood.
This suggests that seeing the iron in the blood is not an "always on" feature of all Steel Inquisitors. Either they can choose to turn this off, burning less steel/iron if the situation demands it, or it is a difficult skill to learn and master, requiring much practice to be able to do it casually.--Darniil 17:26, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
Chapter 17 - Breeze
Sazed refers to Breeze as "Lord Ladrian" in this chapter. I can't remember if Breeze was called that earlier, or not.
It seems odd, if not, that he would be called this and the others - Vin, at the very least - would not comment on it. Breeze is a nobleman pretending to be a skaa (pretending to be a nobleman), but is it known among the crew as a whole that he's really a nobleman? I thought Vin didn't find out until the second book (at the earliest).
I need to go back and take a closer look at this.--Darniil 19:44, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
Chapter 19 - Kelsier on Elend
When Kell sees that Vin is falling for Elend, he thinks to himself, "I hope he doesn't hurt you too much when he discards you. You should know better than this."
I wonder if, after the trilogy, Kelsier came up to Elend and said something like, "You know, I was actually wrong about you. You're allowed to date my not-quite-daughter."--Darniil 00:22, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
Chapter 20 - Geography Comments
Renoux and Kelsier are shipping weapons, ostensibly to Renoux’s plantation in the west. Valette Renoux’s parents live in the Western Dominance, as well, yet the weapons will be unloaded, according to Renoux, at the rebellion caverns - but the Arguois caverns are east of Tresting’s estate, which is itself north of Luthadel.
As much as I hate to admit such a thing, this may be an oversight of the author's.--Darniil 01:50, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
Chapter 27 - A Clue from Brandon?
“We can’t fight the entire Final Empire as a whole - it’s too big. But, we might be able to shatter it, then make the pieces fight each other.” -Kelsier
Part of me wonders if this was a carrot that Brandon dangled in front of the readers, a clue as to what happened with Adonalsium. Obviously, Kelsier would have no knowledge of Adonalsium or the Shards at this point in the story, but Brandon probably did, and I wouldn't be surprised if he sprinkled clues here and there throughout his early books. But it makes me wonder: before Adonalsium shattered, was there someone - or a group - that was determined to remove it, realized that they couldn't remove it as one, giant entity, and then decided to shatter it so that the remnants would destroy each other?
It's entirely possible that this is a coincidence, but it's also possible that it isn't.--Darniil (talk) 15:38, 21 January 2014 (UTC)