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Design was with Hoid when [[Odium]] took [[Kaladin]]'s consciousness to [[Braize]]. Design played Hoid's flute while he told the story "The Dog and the Dragon". Design was able to play the flute despite not having lips, moving her fingers randomly and simultaneously holding a conversation with Hoid. She spoiled the ending of the story to Kaladin. She argued with Hoid and provided a counterpoint to a lot of things he said.{{book ref|sa4|80}}
Design had a conversation with Hoid in Elhokar's old palace before Hoid confronted Odium. She argued with Hoid about
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