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Jasnah believes her mother to have a tendency toward the overwhelming.{{book ref|sa2|1}} She does not let her mother 'mother' her.{{book ref|sa2|5}} Navani knows that Jasnah wouldn't let her 'mother' her; that once she'd reached adolescence, Jasnah no longer ''needed'' a mother. She would try to get close to her daughter, and there was a ''coldness'', like even being near her mother reminded Jasnah that she had once been a child. She wonders what happened to her little girl, so full of questions.{{book ref|sa2|67}}
With Jasnah's loss, Navani considers this to be her ''first'' time mourning. This is telling to Dalinar regarding the difficulties between she and Gavilar before his
The epigraph for [[Words of Radiance: Chapter 8]] telling of just how deeply Navani feels the loss of her daughter.{{book ref|sa2|8}}
=== Elhokar ===
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