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While she was in Marat, [[Dalinar Kholin]] pulled her into one of his visions, and attempted to negotiate; Venli, however, refused all overtures of peace. The conversation was cut short by [[Odium]] breaking into the vision space, with Dalinar managing to send Venli out just before his arrival.{{book ref|sa3|109}} After that event, Venli boarded one of the ships heading to [[Thaylen City]].{{book ref|sa3|i|12}}
{{image|Envoyform Venli by Marie Seeberger.jpg|side=right|width=250px|At the Battle of Thaylen Field}}
=== Surgebinder ===
After learning that [[secretspren]] and [[chaosspren]] didn't work, she realized that she could practice her powers as a Willshaper without being caught, and did so in a secluded corner of the tower.{{book ref|sa4|67}}
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|Don't make this harder than it already is. I'm not here to help the humans. I can barely help my own kind.
|Venli to Timbre{{book ref|sa4|41}}
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