Discusión:Ojos claros

I have two issues with the section below:

A second and even rarer method of becoming a lighteyes is to become either a Surgebinder or Knight Radiant.

Is it really a rarer method? As far as I know Kaladin and Rock won a Shardblade, but there's way more Knight Radiants.

Also how can you become a surgebinder and not a knight radiant? Honorblade? Fused? I think this needs to be explained better

- Inkspren

Hey! I think that sentence can be updated to just say 'A second method of becoming...' and take out the rarer - the page was written pre RoW so it was still seemingly very rare for Surgebinders to exist, but now it's clear that there are a lot more than before. Feel free to update that bit. :D In terms of the Surgebinder vs Knights Radiant, it's because a Surgebinder is anyone who manipulates the Surges - which includes Knight's Radiant, Honorblade welders, Fused - but Knights Radiant in particular are a group that is headed by Dalinar, so not everyone identifies with that group. It's like how Vorinism is the religion of five different nations, but those nations are distinct from one another. I hope that helps, let me know if I'm not making sense! LadyLameness (talk) 05:05, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

Yeah just changed the first sentence. For the second one, it still seems redundant to say Surgebinders AND Knight Radiants. A bit like saying Animals and Cows or Trees and Oaks. Shouldn't we just cut out Knight Radiants? Since all Knight Radiants are Surgebinders Inkspren (talk)

Yeah, it is a little redundant. It also elides the fact that not all Surgebinders are lighteyes (e.g., Fused and those whose Nahel bond hasn't progressed far enough yet). So, I would suggest that the sentence be re-written to say something like "A second method of becoming a lighteyes is to have a sufficiently advanced Nahel bond." Ideally, the paragraph should also be updated to reflect that it's a function of both how many oaths they've sworn and how long they've had the bond for, per this line from RoW chapter 25: "These days, after being Radiant for as long as they had, their eyes rarely faded anymore."

--Stargazer (talk) 23:45, 15 October 2021 (UTC)